| why is telling the truth such a not printable subject....makes me sick | by Luxas for everyone |
--- In secretsofwitchcraft@yahoogroups.com, "luxas aureaum" <wizardluxas@t...> wrote:
> Let's start off by dispelling some myths about witchcraft.
> First and foremost, witchcraft is not a religion (it was introduced as a religion for 3 purposed difficulties.
> Let's start off by dispelling some myths about witchcraft.
> First and foremost, witchcraft is not a religion (it was introduced as a religion for 3 purposed difficulties.
1. at the time churches could be considered tax free
2. unless something is a religion isn't not openly respected
3. to get back at organized religion "christian designs"
2. unless something is a religion isn't not openly respected
3. to get back at organized religion "christian designs"
We
are recognized by the government (yes, but under these rules) our
clergy can perform marriages (correct but also must be linked by a local
church type order), and carry the titles appropriate to our position as
a revern.) We do not worship satan but the orders that started their
making murry and such said God of the Witches, and because they fear the
negitive political design openly, yet they use the same symbolism,and
mind you this is the "modern" witch image, we are life affirming (thats
what is claimed but they do more of a shaman/pagan design massed as
witchcraft). Our belief system is earth based.
>
Second, this is not about love spells, spells used for revenge, or
> spells to make yourself look like someone else (however in their bos is chants of vitality and self image). If you have seen the
movie "The Craft" by Sony, you watch a firsthand look at the
> misconceptions the world has about witchcraft. "The Craft" was, in my opinion, one of the most repulsive movies I have ever seen made about witchcraft (yet the information based on the movie came from researchers of witch by a "modern" witch. You do not become a witch just to cast spells, there is more to it than that (this is however correct, and few in the world of the modern witch have less then 5 spell books by pagans..lol.
>
Third, and most important, you will never know everything there is to
witchcraft (perhaps this is because by the (new/old)witch of modern hasn't done any real research outside of their own bookstore), it is a religion that is endless (thats the pagan/shaman side developed from the god/goddess image "greek/roman", Egyptian/and culture derived, now matted into the pattern of celtic and re-claiming norse imagery, and even ponying in on Druid). To understand and know
everything there is to know about it (you need one that does it, and besides the gypsies of the old and the mages of the past few know the true arts of witch, besides "real witches"), modern witches now need hold within their self image the knowledge as a "witch" but fail because they give into the fake yet rewarding pagan free for all, which is what witchcraft is re-designed, then reclaimed upon.
>
Second, this is not about love spells, spells used for revenge, or
> spells to make yourself look like someone else (however in their bos is chants of vitality and self image). If you have seen the
movie "The Craft" by Sony, you watch a firsthand look at the
> misconceptions the world has about witchcraft. "The Craft" was, in my opinion, one of the most repulsive movies I have ever seen made about witchcraft (yet the information based on the movie came from researchers of witch by a "modern" witch. You do not become a witch just to cast spells, there is more to it than that (this is however correct, and few in the world of the modern witch have less then 5 spell books by pagans..lol.
>
Third, and most important, you will never know everything there is to
witchcraft (perhaps this is because by the (new/old)witch of modern hasn't done any real research outside of their own bookstore), it is a religion that is endless (thats the pagan/shaman side developed from the god/goddess image "greek/roman", Egyptian/and culture derived, now matted into the pattern of celtic and re-claiming norse imagery, and even ponying in on Druid). To understand and know
everything there is to know about it (you need one that does it, and besides the gypsies of the old and the mages of the past few know the true arts of witch, besides "real witches"), modern witches now need hold within their self image the knowledge as a "witch" but fail because they give into the fake yet rewarding pagan free for all, which is what witchcraft is re-designed, then reclaimed upon.
Answers as a witch...
> We don't worship deities, a Goddess is what is recorded as our main design, however that is only in her supportive nature, We respect all beings of wisdom and power in any of their forms. We chose not to be
open or available to any unless they are like ourself : which we can feel . You might not know from looking at us, but we have done this type of road from birth and will until.... > We cast and change things at will but we won't do anything outside our own living unless we have need for others to know. We are in touch with the "weird" or insane because it is fear that keep them that way, however we aren't of their making. We just serve different natures in our lives because it serves our..the nature of or reasoning to want this path.
> Why are we drawn to this? The answer to that is simple,
Any who have touched on "witchcraft" the real roots of its magic(k) will find it more awakening and complete then many of the dreams you visit or books you fantasize in...THE GODDESS,(to some only a womanly self image is much more to use like a living energy or spirit that helps build a deeper relationship to all, as YOUR god or gods might do for you..(as i am fond of saying "If you have had experienced that moment when she comes to you in your beginner rituals or abit later you might find a fondness for her as well, "Again" witchcraft isn't a religion...just brought by her and the spirit...to teach about all things magic(k) touches. We do not need to go out and visit houses to bring the words of our design/path to other...only those like us hear anything from us..named the "Calling", most the time we only have a semi permanent structure called a "circle" in which we gather and hold work within with others of our kind.. in silence, nature is our awaking places. Some are secretive about the knowledge that they hold (because they are taught to be that way), but others are willing to provide it to educate others (that one day will hold natures views as we do) Other that think a bunch of bloodthirsty heathens, sacrificing babes in the middle of the woods on a blood stained altar (saddly that was done more by the corrupted arts of others that wanted to do away with kids from royal bloodlines to remain in power and blame it on others....
>
> While we do use blades (called athames) and swords if your dealing in the occult oter arts, they are never ment to draw anothers blood.
(however to be truthful, In ancient ritual they was use to draw our own in ritual and protection... the cutting of herbs is a modern witchcraft design based off of shaman/voodoo.
When the drawing of the circle in which we gather in and out of, we direct energy and begin our ancient sacred rites by moon sun or star. We do mix potions and use herbs, but they are for both to heal and to protect... Spell casting in a form of prayer for most of Modern witch design is laughable, they use chant spells and not the magic(k) of old...and they wrote them for their "new" ways, and they are not ment for others to use. But that is the "MODERN"
>
> We as "Real" recognize there are no laws in magic(k) only morality, and the return which simply states that though the rule of 3 never happens accept in questions...whatever we do it will return to us same as sent..(psss, the rule of 3 was setup to stop dabblers by putting fear in their workings, which should stand because dabblers can still get it back.... By this fake law, it makes everything one as witch of modern wrong for them to harm another, or to do anything that violates a person's freedom (so they can show the claws as in a cat but other know they retract). We can do it, but we will pay for it in the end. (correct, but the "modern witch" is paying now, being turned newage or shaman) PERHAPS THEY ARE GETTING THEIR 3 RETURN BACK..LOL
>
> I am a Witch (sorry miss/mister, you aren't) your the othertype, and I am proud of what I am. My love for my fellow man
> crosses over that of race, religion and beliefs. The Goddess whom I
> serve does not demand me to bend my knee in supplication, she accepts
> me willingly and I her. Those who do not believe as I do, they are
> not wrong, they are just on a different path in life. I do not pass
> judgment, I am stating what I have read, what I have learned, what I
> know and what I believe. If what I have written bothers you, turn
> away and go about your life, I am just one of many, and my words do
> not need to impact upon your soul unless you let them. I am a Witch,
> and I shall die a ...not witch. My beliefs shall live past me, and the
> Goddess shall receive me when my time here is done. And I welcome you
> to my world and my words.
> We don't worship deities, a Goddess is what is recorded as our main design, however that is only in her supportive nature, We respect all beings of wisdom and power in any of their forms. We chose not to be
open or available to any unless they are like ourself : which we can feel . You might not know from looking at us, but we have done this type of road from birth and will until.... > We cast and change things at will but we won't do anything outside our own living unless we have need for others to know. We are in touch with the "weird" or insane because it is fear that keep them that way, however we aren't of their making. We just serve different natures in our lives because it serves our..the nature of or reasoning to want this path.
> Why are we drawn to this? The answer to that is simple,
Any who have touched on "witchcraft" the real roots of its magic(k) will find it more awakening and complete then many of the dreams you visit or books you fantasize in...THE GODDESS,(to some only a womanly self image is much more to use like a living energy or spirit that helps build a deeper relationship to all, as YOUR god or gods might do for you..(as i am fond of saying "If you have had experienced that moment when she comes to you in your beginner rituals or abit later you might find a fondness for her as well, "Again" witchcraft isn't a religion...just brought by her and the spirit...to teach about all things magic(k) touches. We do not need to go out and visit houses to bring the words of our design/path to other...only those like us hear anything from us..named the "Calling", most the time we only have a semi permanent structure called a "circle" in which we gather and hold work within with others of our kind.. in silence, nature is our awaking places. Some are secretive about the knowledge that they hold (because they are taught to be that way), but others are willing to provide it to educate others (that one day will hold natures views as we do) Other that think a bunch of bloodthirsty heathens, sacrificing babes in the middle of the woods on a blood stained altar (saddly that was done more by the corrupted arts of others that wanted to do away with kids from royal bloodlines to remain in power and blame it on others....
>
> While we do use blades (called athames) and swords if your dealing in the occult oter arts, they are never ment to draw anothers blood.
(however to be truthful, In ancient ritual they was use to draw our own in ritual and protection... the cutting of herbs is a modern witchcraft design based off of shaman/voodoo.
When the drawing of the circle in which we gather in and out of, we direct energy and begin our ancient sacred rites by moon sun or star. We do mix potions and use herbs, but they are for both to heal and to protect... Spell casting in a form of prayer for most of Modern witch design is laughable, they use chant spells and not the magic(k) of old...and they wrote them for their "new" ways, and they are not ment for others to use. But that is the "MODERN"
>
> We as "Real" recognize there are no laws in magic(k) only morality, and the return which simply states that though the rule of 3 never happens accept in questions...whatever we do it will return to us same as sent..(psss, the rule of 3 was setup to stop dabblers by putting fear in their workings, which should stand because dabblers can still get it back.... By this fake law, it makes everything one as witch of modern wrong for them to harm another, or to do anything that violates a person's freedom (so they can show the claws as in a cat but other know they retract). We can do it, but we will pay for it in the end. (correct, but the "modern witch" is paying now, being turned newage or shaman) PERHAPS THEY ARE GETTING THEIR 3 RETURN BACK..LOL
>
> I am a Witch (sorry miss/mister, you aren't) your the othertype, and I am proud of what I am. My love for my fellow man
> crosses over that of race, religion and beliefs. The Goddess whom I
> serve does not demand me to bend my knee in supplication, she accepts
> me willingly and I her. Those who do not believe as I do, they are
> not wrong, they are just on a different path in life. I do not pass
> judgment, I am stating what I have read, what I have learned, what I
> know and what I believe. If what I have written bothers you, turn
> away and go about your life, I am just one of many, and my words do
> not need to impact upon your soul unless you let them. I am a Witch,
> and I shall die a ...not witch. My beliefs shall live past me, and the
> Goddess shall receive me when my time here is done. And I welcome you
> to my world and my words.
nice beliefs but your way not witch.....
| how do i find my rituals? | by Luxas for everyone |
My Rituals : humm
Well
first all real magical systems of workings has their own passed on as
my teacher of witchcraft did, my occult teacher had his, and my wizard
teacher well he taught me that you can't make your own and call it
factual, though it may work or have some symbolic trait, in the end it
has no foundation, no real reason to be existing but to draw from not a
universal or connective source but a limited one such as personal
hoping.....
I never had to "find" anything it if its real finds you...
| For those that seek a group or coven | by Luxas for everyone |
I
am a teacher of magic including witchcraft, at times i do work group or
cove, i have been doing this for like 10 years so far...i will show you
information and show you things that the books have only hinted
about....
I request of all who seek me or my group/cove...
to send me a picture of themselves to my wzdrylmaster1@aol.com (e-mail)
so i can read their aura...
to send me a picture of themselves to my wzdrylmaster1@aol.com (e-mail)
so i can read their aura...
as
for the group or study, we however do work for charging purposes *only*
skyclad:naked, but only in that form unless fully comfortable...there
are many makeshift witches in the world and most of them know only wicca
and the newagy shaman modern druidism....these are cool arts in their
own right, however they will never be real witchcraft...
"as they would say" can't hold a candle to...
"as they would say" can't hold a candle to...
Here is what you learn or might learn here if your accepted.....
Introductory Lesson: Neo adv
" in this lesson you learn about how energy is formed in witch and witchcraft"
candle light working : the abulity of channeling the heat and spirit of the candles internal energy into yourself and to direct it, the beginning of charge as in creating it....
" in this lesson you learn about how energy is formed in witch and witchcraft"
candle light working : the abulity of channeling the heat and spirit of the candles internal energy into yourself and to direct it, the beginning of charge as in creating it....
next walking the circle :
Learning what the pentagram and circle are and how to use both and
create the walls of the witches power in themselves via nature and the
beginning of your iniational oath as witch....
next finding
the hidden : the power of the witches charge is to feel what is out of
pace, missing, or losing energy in this lesson you learn how to gain
this gift.....
next the touch of tempest : feeling the power
of witch and witchcraft grow in your spirit and feeling those who are
and are not what they claim, this is done on a more subconscious form
and directed by your new nature as a witch to be
next the
skyclad candle ; learning and using the color pattern of the witch as in
witchcraft to create a spiritual doorway to the un-seen world, in this
your past will return
(physically)
(physically)
Lesson One: Tempest adv
The Real Altar : the key symbols used as power and know throughout the world in both witch and general magic(k), and how to set them off
The Real Altar : the key symbols used as power and know throughout the world in both witch and general magic(k), and how to set them off
next
the Stone ring of perfection and trust : the first of 3 circles
developed to gain personal magic and keys to the other 2 stone rings,
the power of the walls given to you will increase at a faster rate, here
next
is be thee dawn or awaiting moon ; the power to gain from any form of
magic(k) you will encounter and even to reflect it and make it
stronger....you learn here
next theTurning the wheel : learn
the real days used for gaining power and the places that one can gain
more gifts by......not the sabat, ritual stuff
next the
mixing : now that your senses are awakening it is time to tune them and
create an abulity to focus power from your very eyes.......
(these are the beginning gifts of personal magic given to the ones who freely seek to know witch and witchcraft)
(these are the beginning gifts of personal magic given to the ones who freely seek to know witch and witchcraft)
Initiation : Witch
The keep and the given nature: If you have gained all i said before then you are a witch
and now it is your time to show it, and have it seen in you.....nature will now respond to your very fingers......cool huh,
The keep and the given nature: If you have gained all i said before then you are a witch
and now it is your time to show it, and have it seen in you.....nature will now respond to your very fingers......cool huh,
next
being witch : It is easy to wear some title and join some group, but
being one takes a bit of a new twist, it will now as your skills
increase start teaching you,
(like so many said before you can only direct the witchself, not instruct)
(like so many said before you can only direct the witchself, not instruct)
next
fostering : the abulity to channel energy and even protect using your
own personal energy, many can do this naturally, but find it hard to
control without instruction, it can be like a lightbulb awaiting to go
out due to being off or on so long....
next the unseen witchcraft, revealed (being touched)
(this is the cool part. as you are becoming well the energies and images of witches will seek you out, so be not afraid, otherwise you might go mad....sorry, but yes) as you gain this lesson, you will learn things others hidden from you..........
(this is the cool part. as you are becoming well the energies and images of witches will seek you out, so be not afraid, otherwise you might go mad....sorry, but yes) as you gain this lesson, you will learn things others hidden from you..........
next the Skyclad truth : You
are now the witch in the beginning of her beauty, the naked you with
your clothing on is hereby revealed and you will wonder why it took you
so long to understand that, and fear well will be gone forever from you
about your calling.....
Lesson Two: Neo witch
The fields of 8 Sabbat Rituals and why they be : To know the path of others is to walk them, in witchcraft it hides nothing, so you will at this level learn what others have planed for the witches truth, and what they hope to be of......
The fields of 8 Sabbat Rituals and why they be : To know the path of others is to walk them, in witchcraft it hides nothing, so you will at this level learn what others have planed for the witches truth, and what they hope to be of......
next The Gypsy stone and mirror : scrying is
quite beneath a real witch, why because that is a lesson, that nature
has already given you in personal magic(k) but the power of the gypsy
can see more then mere scrying, and that is what a growing witch needs,
so the lesson of the stone/mirror is quite a worthy one to those that wish to see a diffrent form of witch....
so the lesson of the stone/mirror is quite a worthy one to those that wish to see a diffrent form of witch....
next
Facing the Inner and Outer circles : remember i talked of the 3 circles
it time to advance your power and wisdom by calling on their gates, no
not the 4 corners but the real power of the witches circle, should only
be done, if you have finished all the other levels, because whats in
there will want out..........
next Facing the Nightwind :
Ever wondered what a demon is, well they know you or they will know you
better if you haven't mastered this lesson...witches don't fight demons
or warlock, they only are themselves powerful, if you have the idea that
you can fight these things,then practice not magic(k) cause your
dreaming....(beside warlock is a term for a guardian of loc castle, lol)
the truth is quite a bitter taste to the lost
next
Harnessing the arial servent and night winds : Real witches have
guardians (not angels or demons) but servents in the realm of shadow and
light, to be a real witch of power is to have one given to you by a
higher power and they do their job well...
Lesson Three: Fire witch/Tempest dreamer
Workings of the mind in fire : now that you have gained the keys, sygils , markers and charge well it is time to learn their powers (a fire witch isn't a witch born on the sign of fire lol, thats fluffy) A fire witch is one who has gathered the secrets of fire that they can use fires gifts and nature.....
Workings of the mind in fire : now that you have gained the keys, sygils , markers and charge well it is time to learn their powers (a fire witch isn't a witch born on the sign of fire lol, thats fluffy) A fire witch is one who has gathered the secrets of fire that they can use fires gifts and nature.....
next tools of the gypsy : The goddess
is a fan of fire witchery, so she gives the witch a special gift, the
gift of voice of the future, quite a cool gift but one that requires
abit of self control, because what you will see is quite
well........amazing
next Walking the
nightwind/nightwing/mirror ; the power of fire is to visit other realms
and one who has mastered this gift, well they will see what others will
only find out in well 50- or so years but to those that don't learn the
lessons ( possession ) will happen to the weak of heart
Lesson Four: Water witch/ neo scryer
Magic's Essences : you will learn the makeup of magic(k) and its truthful nature in the hands of others, why? it just happens to be the nature of a water witch...
Magic's Essences : you will learn the makeup of magic(k) and its truthful nature in the hands of others, why? it just happens to be the nature of a water witch...
next you learn Skyclad candle dreamer : here
you learn the makings of nature and how to make them work for your
casting power, the water witch is a spellcaster, but not an ordinary
one, she can caste from any field of energy and with the tools before
has quite a shell of protection, this is the level where she puts her
skill to the test
Ecu dema hektaru ovel : The Water Mirror
Shodu Modugei keto metu legba :The Healing Mirror
Ecu dema hektaru ovel : The Water Mirror
Shodu Modugei keto metu legba :The Healing Mirror
Amulets and Talismans ; They symbols, language, system and design of these creations will you as a water witch master
Water
scrying advanced dreamer : gypsy skill, your will will create a
mystical doorway to the realm of dreaming, but not your own, a network
to the will of all dreamers
next Personal energy : a Water
witch can give and take energy at will, tends to give though, they can
feel the pain, love, anger, hate of any they come in contact with even
over great distances, at this level tuning is required otherwise you
could find yourself becoming them....lol
tuwar kempra shem
vegerbrah : your self image at this level will take a funny turn, you
will seem like angel light will be coming from you and be abit
tranquail,
why? well because at this level you will know the truth fof a water witch.......
why? well because at this level you will know the truth fof a water witch.......
Lesson Five: Earth witch / the magi, consort, helper
coding a circle of the inner and outer ; given to you from a book, will be keys and symbols that will bond you and others to the natures and power of earth, "you wanted your foot in the door, well it is in" now what you do is up to you...
coding a circle of the inner and outer ; given to you from a book, will be keys and symbols that will bond you and others to the natures and power of earth, "you wanted your foot in the door, well it is in" now what you do is up to you...
next Casting with keys and doors:
gathered together all the skill you earned and continue to do, makes you
ready to open a gate, like no other
this is the Gate of changes "many have tryed these gates and few return sain, why because they didn't face why they saught entrance, will you.....
this is the Gate of changes "many have tryed these gates and few return sain, why because they didn't face why they saught entrance, will you.....
next Magi
Text of Names and Patterns : normally not witch skill, but the magic
play in the equaling balance of the circle, so it is not so shocking
that they might learn abit about each others works............
next consorting with the Natures : having made it through the gate and ready to move on
well its time to find your place, and I hope your ready to see what giving back truely means........you will here....
well its time to find your place, and I hope your ready to see what giving back truely means........you will here....
next Re iniation of the Oath "time to give back"
Lesson Six: Air witch / priestess,full,or moon
The shadow and the light 9 rituals of high magic ; the practices of the charging of priestess and the working (way mature are these rituals because they require more then just abit of words or gestures.....)
The shadow and the light 9 rituals of high magic ; the practices of the charging of priestess and the working (way mature are these rituals because they require more then just abit of words or gestures.....)
next learning you calling : Are you ready to move on, what does it detail, can you foster a coven, here you see.....
next
the air of purple and gold and black : to inhance the increasing power
that you as a witch and now becoming a priestess has added on yourself,
tuning is an advanced art of magic(k) and it is one that can if you do
not respect it and practice can take a lifetime to handle.....
Lesson Seven: Full witch basics
Fears,Powers,Turths,Natures : here you will learn about the powers of a full witch and witches in general and abit more of mythos about the witch self only told in ancient stories......
Fears,Powers,Turths,Natures : here you will learn about the powers of a full witch and witches in general and abit more of mythos about the witch self only told in ancient stories......
next Order/Chaos and the Balances : As
any witch knows they exist, but do you know the places, presences, tools
they use and they way to balance and even divide them, you will here
next
( Union ) in self or other : the key to balance and the skill of self
is to discover with others your mirror "in union you learn this lesson
well, and like most lessons it require maturity to pass it...
next
know the Sacret name of things : call it as it was, is the power you
will gain here both in wisdom and in understanding youwill without much
learning in any book, be as wise as those who do......(nature will call
out to ) you.......
next Athame/dagger history and touch of :
the underlined history of the use, meaning and puropse of the blade,
and where it gained it power........and how to remove its power
Lesson Eight: The priestess
ritual Duties : the inner workings of the circle of witch as in coven, properties and the way of transferance and union and fostering.....
ritual Duties : the inner workings of the circle of witch as in coven, properties and the way of transferance and union and fostering.....
next circle magic : As a priestess what is your placement, and how to charge and bind
and a few other things........
and a few other things........
next tools of her keeping : when does she foster others tools and charge them
next....the self : what does being a priestess offer , this is answered here
History of Priestess nature
History of Priestess nature
Witch Q-A : Answer what you have learned and the natures you now know....
(here you get to ask all the questions you want about the witchself)
(here you get to ask all the questions you want about the witchself)
Lesson Nine: The High Priestess
Full witch self : the gifts , talents and mastery of reflection as a full witch
title : what does being high priestess mean
oath : the bond of a high priestess in ritual to nature and what it means
Duties : the working and gathering of an Hps
History of Witchcraft as in Firstings : Learn history of witchcraft as taught by My Hps and how it still is quite a mystery to most magic(k) users
Full witch self : the gifts , talents and mastery of reflection as a full witch
title : what does being high priestess mean
oath : the bond of a high priestess in ritual to nature and what it means
Duties : the working and gathering of an Hps
History of Witchcraft as in Firstings : Learn history of witchcraft as taught by My Hps and how it still is quite a mystery to most magic(k) users
now that you have encountered what you saught as witch, from the time you seeked,
perhaps you hunger for abit more, mind you this is treading in the wizard,mage, and magi realm.....
perhaps you hunger for abit more, mind you this is treading in the wizard,mage, and magi realm.....
Lesson Ten: Tes Morte Sen opel Sodem ( the books of the dead )
Ever wonder what being a ghost was like :Spiritual Venturing
Can you tap into your past live and see them as you are now :Time Incarnates
Awaken the power to open the gate to seeing everyone's inner shadow :
Knowing the living soul
Astrobody 101 and etheral nexus 202 :projecting a dream spirit
Hexing truths and falsehoods : want to know what counters what, and what can't be countered.....
Ever wonder what being a ghost was like :Spiritual Venturing
Can you tap into your past live and see them as you are now :Time Incarnates
Awaken the power to open the gate to seeing everyone's inner shadow :
Knowing the living soul
Astrobody 101 and etheral nexus 202 :projecting a dream spirit
Hexing truths and falsehoods : want to know what counters what, and what can't be countered.....
Lesson Eleven: Atep Sheth Hoben Kempra Isi ( Egyptian/sumerian
spellcasting and why it isn't witchcraft ) egyptian priest did alchemisty not spells...
chant's yes, prayers yes.....
The living words ; the Gate of Isis
Curses and how to make them stick: The royal code
alchemical egypt : what the priest taught (in their actual tongues)
Alexandrian Library ( and the scrolls ) as learned in astrobody
creating a Pharoah......quite a cool story
Deities of the black abyusu enit ( underworld )
the world between the world of the dead.........shethma domain
spellcasting and why it isn't witchcraft ) egyptian priest did alchemisty not spells...
chant's yes, prayers yes.....
The living words ; the Gate of Isis
Curses and how to make them stick: The royal code
alchemical egypt : what the priest taught (in their actual tongues)
Alexandrian Library ( and the scrolls ) as learned in astrobody
creating a Pharoah......quite a cool story
Deities of the black abyusu enit ( underworld )
the world between the world of the dead.........shethma domain
Lesson Twelve: Tetragramatonic Wizard Secrets
the Keys ( the 7 actually gate keys of solomon and the book of the Angels)
the five doors of the 4 elements ( and how they work ) as refered too by the keeper of the keys arron.....
the working of :stick or staff , realm or rod
whispers of witchcraft ( what wizards known of witches powers)
God/Goddess ( the whole 12 step program ) not AA but cute
an ancient symbol used for centuries as the philospher's stone and it's key
the Keys ( the 7 actually gate keys of solomon and the book of the Angels)
the five doors of the 4 elements ( and how they work ) as refered too by the keeper of the keys arron.....
the working of :stick or staff , realm or rod
whispers of witchcraft ( what wizards known of witches powers)
God/Goddess ( the whole 12 step program ) not AA but cute
an ancient symbol used for centuries as the philospher's stone and it's key
Level Thirteen: Wizardry has Females
Wizardress: When a wizard found a woman of beauty and power, they tend to teach them alittle in the hopes of keeping their interest some women out grew that fast and wanted more.....so they were invite to join the house, few are know to have pasted though......the workings of being on, nature and history of them
Wizardress: When a wizard found a woman of beauty and power, they tend to teach them alittle in the hopes of keeping their interest some women out grew that fast and wanted more.....so they were invite to join the house, few are know to have pasted though......the workings of being on, nature and history of them
spells : a complete list of companion
spells to your working nature( available for working only at the end of
your education ) only in physical study.........
Thanks for your interest
| A Magicuser's truth | by Luxas for everyone |
In the smoke we call to our
our fate within to the door of charge
beacon as we must to all
to instill in virtue and a wall
for in the dark lerks are design
awaiting the dabbler for their crime
in judgement will the gate swing open
and close the temple to which it is spoken
you as witch or casting call
will stew and spit at this wall
for the natural truth is what you saught
and at your feet will no soul rot
for your the key the song and verse
and if your message is wrong its worse
for as a wall you are now a keeper
and to the dabbler that arrive are just mere seekers
energy in your voice as you hang high
all the lost by their prize
for you took the fire the will and the fate
and stepped within the magic's true gate
so blow out your candle and begin ever again
because for the goddess she share with you
a grin...witch or wizard or token alike
will you never fear what walks in the night..
our fate within to the door of charge
beacon as we must to all
to instill in virtue and a wall
for in the dark lerks are design
awaiting the dabbler for their crime
in judgement will the gate swing open
and close the temple to which it is spoken
you as witch or casting call
will stew and spit at this wall
for the natural truth is what you saught
and at your feet will no soul rot
for your the key the song and verse
and if your message is wrong its worse
for as a wall you are now a keeper
and to the dabbler that arrive are just mere seekers
energy in your voice as you hang high
all the lost by their prize
for you took the fire the will and the fate
and stepped within the magic's true gate
so blow out your candle and begin ever again
because for the goddess she share with you
a grin...witch or wizard or token alike
will you never fear what walks in the night..
| The 101 run around | by Luxas for everyone |
From the pages of witchvox......
| The Shadow Knows... by by Sia There is a question that often comes up in the Earthwise Community. It is this: "Why are there so many books and classes at levels 101 to 303 but no classes or books that seem to go past level 3?" I believe that those classes do indeed exist. I believe that they have little to do with ritual, clothing, holidays, spells, books or tools and everything to do with personal growth. These classes are not offered by a Priest or Priestess, except where they teach by example. Instead, Life itself offers us these classes. In a Trickster-like fashion, it offers us the test first and the lesson afterward. If we survive the lesson, we will have reached the next level. The challenge here involves claiming our power, living responsibly and accepting the consequences of our choices..... [... continued] (my reply) The 4 and the 5 that makes up the true student of magic is beyond most bookites because they need only guide you to the beginning and then let the populas decide where it goes, while the real practicing mastery is left to the ones who put down the books and use their brain..... 4 is in reality a step into the bigger design of being, and 5 is being able to take others with you...however nature of the self has always been 3.... |
To: mdpagansnwitches@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mdpagansnwitches] Facts and myths
Facts and myths
Myth : All witches are women.
Fact: A male witch is not a Warlock ( an old english phrase that means oath breaker) a male witch is a witch an a female witch is a witch....this information is only upheld by wiccan designs not witch one..and was ratified in the 60's after the first wiccan books was coming into being..
and the fact is witches are women, and men are called adepts or mages...not witches
Myth : Pagans are witches.
Fact: All witches are Pagans, but not all pagans are not witches. again another wiccan fact after the fact... witches aren't pagan, Pagan is an unbrella like working trying to claim control of all not connected to the main stream religions and archtypes..., paganism can have witch like properties just as wicca trys to, however paganism doesn't have any motive other then to practice what they believe as an eathbased or cultural truth and have no structor, other then pantheums..or cultural directions.. "witches Don't"
Myth : Witches hurt creatures ( animal and Human )
Fact: " In the religion of Witchcraft itself there is a very very strict three-fold law which means anything you do comes back to you three times whether it be good or bad." ---fact witchcraft has no such rule only those who claimed to create wicca have forced that issue and it was only to keep the dabblers in line...---wiches didn't harm animals, but would cast on those who dare to mess with their existance...never directly strike out as others would want you to fight them on it..., so you can view it as bad, making the wiccan design like tv trying to sell you...so you can get new prettier books...
Myth : Witches worship Satan.
Fact: Witches don't have a Satan within their deity structure. wicca claim it doesn't and it doesn't as the name satan, however they have in certain designs...the horned god, the greenman and the stag consort....all are along the same idea..
Witches of the La Vey
movement have practiced in the idea of satan trying to make this
beginning as "an unruly wise but yet not stupid or gulible witch" which
as sort of died sense his death,
Witches of Old
didn't battle dark forces, they worked with them, and if you don't know
this perhaps your fooling yourself into the wicca new design and good
for you...so when your car is stolen and your robbed you can say your
protection spell has done its job.........sorry..
Witches
work with the energies, signals, silences and even the pains of
others....if you don't feel they do, then you just wait until you meet a
truthful one not just one from a new cover of a book or movie...
What
is it to be a witch, mage or magic user if your going to lie to the
ones you want to help get to what you yourself have experienced...
What type of guide are U?
COVEN PECKING ORDER
HIGH PRIEST: Leaps tall builings in a single bound, is more powerful
than a speeding locomotive, is faster than a speeding bullet, walks on water, and dictates policy to God.
3RD DEGREE INITIATE: Leaps short buildings in a single bound, more
powerful than a switch engine, is just as fast as a speeding bullet,
walks on water...if the sea is calm, and talks to God.
2ND DEGREE INITIATE: Leaps short buildings with a running start and
favorable winds, is faster than a BB, more powerful than a railroad hand-car, walks on water in a swimming pool, and talks to God...if a special request is approved.
1ST DEGREE INITIATE: Clears a small hut, loses the race with the
locomotive, can fire a speeding bullet, swims well, and is occasionally addressed by God.
NEOPHYTE:
Runs into small buildings, recognizes a locomotive two out of three
times, frequently wets self with a water pistol, can do the
dog paddle, and mostly mumbles to animals.
HIGH PRIESTESS: Lifts tall buildings to walk under them, kicks
locomotives off the track, catches speeding bullets in her teeth, freezes water with a single glance.
SHE *IS* GOD!
In the Dark her blood is fire,
her eyes dripping black her skin revealing, alive, and sepentive, she haunts me, desires our succubi union, the king flame burns her hurt flesh, She is the vampire, the broken glass, the nighmare filled with naked pleasures, She is the blood, the bone, the candle, the witch, the sister, the daughter, the crone of dust, the moons shade is blue, the vain is white, a drug taken and age relived, you are my tombstone and now my grave, i am naked marked by gods whoms messages wore well in his soul, The Darkened Acolite, the magus of the Un-born My seed haunts her lips, hunger fills her body and witch no more, she is the pain, the truth the darkness reborn in symbol
Saddly the Goetia is just information not real magic...
but find out for yourself i did... :) most of the books of magical design is more lore and story....
how can i say that 17 or so years of study in Occult....
and all the works of solomon...
the main design of most of so called dark magic... but again see for yourself...
Being
a wizard i see only patterns of how energy and knowing are linked
making insight, and with this insight one can understand the workings of
the whole not just the parts given but the parts felt and seen in the
self and other this plays a big part in the greater design of "Why" and
that gives rise to the patterns that form the energy links and the
insight to evaluate the bridge that is emotional created in the seeker
and the knower, this may seem difficult to understand but as you gain
farther you will see for yourself it is a very natural thing... Magic
to me is more then most can comprehend on a firt look, it is more like a
5 dimensional space that only the self being one of the non 5 roots but
needs part any way, can you honestly think it is instinct or natural
known all before....if you do then you may need abit more self and less
fudiment,
As for the greater of magic it is desire
As for the lessor it is need
As for the truth of magic it is sent
As for the lying in magic it is regret
So you tell me, Why is this so?
not all meanings are said as they are thought and not all thoughts are set higher then the nivine or divine incorporation...
Courage to face the un-known and hold steady to the true
Truth to know where the diversity of life reveals as in mysteries Honor to that which you learn and those that chosen to find their own Loyalty in sharing what you are and what you learned and reflect Discipline to know when to press forth and when to question ones own creations Hospitality to that which shows truth and comfort in their own design and others discovery Self-Reliance to show you are what you command and what has choesen you to challege the known Steadfastness and quick in wit to know that you hold wisdom and awareness Industriousness to show both your and the natural design are in harmony
see...
dare the devil and he shows you your dare,
he walks to the sign that is set on a long dusty forgotten cross
he plays his song on the harmon and awaits the flood waters
you say your job or michael to him and he simply fades
you say your in the hearts of all and he send you away
you met the man, they call old stitch his tale is as long as the night
i be not telling you anything your heart not be knowing
but i be telling you all what he be showing...
gold isn't his tool, nor glory will he face, the greyist of grey will he not be hiding within....
if you be seeking him you need to be at the roads where the world come training because he not venture from the rock
you call him out and he laugh at you, you yell at yourself and he show you your worth,
he be your friendly visitor or you wicked nature flaunted, but he not be serving you or your needs
you be serving, even if you think you ain't you be serving...
because you need to meet him at the rock, say your piece and walk away,
as i be speaking he be calling you to, so hold your tongue,
or it find you held.....
the old canister will not be bidded by the walk
nor will the glue you rub
so go to the crossroads otherwise the roads be in your heart
because he not slick or special to most, he be the glue....
meet me there say hi, because i said my piece......and i'm playing the harmonica now....
knock, knock with the staff you have set
to floor and forest and all the candles dancing
knock, knock, the circle or symbol or key about your neck
to the floor to the forest to to the sky you known only in a dream
knock, knock, as you shed all that you may learn
knock,knock, you wall freely among the empty without form...
knock, knock, as you fall or rise in a melody that shakes your soul
knock, knock, and knock some more and now you walk with your partners frame and view the world through a straw,
knock, just knock with that staff, wish, wish with that wand that only witch holds, knock i dare you knock...........
Now what do you knock, your nothing your a dream your a fantasy of the eye and soul, so what did daring the knock get you.....
knock again and see..... you dared to feel, you feel, you dared to know, you now know, you dared to see, you now see.....
now what do you in this ritual of non dare... you dare to knock....
Dry wind cold to touch with the heart of ages told,
In the raven and the wolves does the shadow set known,
Bold without fear do they call the one, the all, the none of stone,
This the sweeping of the dawn awaken, and soul will rest opon the gold,
In weeping for all of creation but gaze like the fire lit sun of old,
Fostering the will of all that is shown and craft you live by word of shown
None but shadow is stalked to grow within or self of serve will burn toll
So dream of color and remember this day of gazing moon carry sown,
For crow is set and raven at bay all is seen in the tigers eye globe,
But gypsy is all that the ancient set to for one to know,
The voices you hear come from the guidance of your heart toned
For the witches keeping is the secrets with pride.....not cloned...
In a world that is black/grey/white, few ever get to see
the patterns that defined why, and those that did risked burning, death, poisoning of the soul, and harassment.... Would that if faced with the reality of this again however painful, have changed their ways, dived least deep, brought less in helped or not helped others see, (the answer saddly is no)
They would still
do as they have done, because to not, is to question it forever and to
do that is worst then ever not needing to know...
We as a
culture of magic k or not need to see the stuff few can, feel the stuff
few can, otherwise we as a culture are a pawn on a very big chess
board.....and being a pawn you have no contol over how you move...
forward, not back and diagnal is the only way you survive,
(not to mention if there is another pawn trying to move as well....)
But
magic much like a chess game, you pawn can become anything you name
after you make it to home row....otherwise you better watch out for
their piece...lol (some pay to play) and that is called being pagan...
Some play to learn (that is called a witch) and some learn to play by instinct and feelings (that is sage/mage/adept)
Then there are some that invented the way it is played these happless founders are called "roleplayer" they know their role so well that when they play they play as if their live depends on it... (always in the idea of wining and they might...but they need more their their skill (they are called wiccan/occult/or grey) 'many pick on this happless piece bacause they aren't playing, they are writting the rules...even if they aren't the main pieces or the board...'
Then there are pawns that aren't pawns to begin
with they been in other games as queens/knights/kings/bishops/rooks so
they know how the game is played because they been there done that...)
(these pawns on a new game are "wizards" they play not to play, not to learn, not for life or death, not even to contest there skill, they play to help the other players say...."been there done that..."
lol Sorry but your in checkmate.....
In all of magic there is a stratagy, it is based on the patterns it shows and in the end it isn't a game.....its just a move...
Cherokee Medicine Gods And Goddesses
ASGAYA GIGAGEI (Cherokee)
The Red Man or Woman evoked in spells to cure the ill. Asgaya Gigagei
is either male or female, depending on the sex of the patient.
KANATI (Cherokee)
"The Lucky Hunter." Sometimes called First Man. He lives with his wife
Selu ("Corn") in the east where the sun rises, and their sons, the Twin
Thunder Boys, live in the west
OCASTA
(Cherokee) "Stonecoat." The name comes from his coat which was made of
pieces of flint. Equally good and evil, Ocasta was one of the Creator's
helpers. Ocasta created witches and drifted from village to village
stirring up turmoil. Some women trapped Ocasta, pinning him to the
ground with a stick through his heart. The men cremated the dying
Ocasta, who while burning on his funeral pyre taught them songs and
dances for hunting, fighting wars and healing. Some of the men were
granted great power and became the first medicine men.
SELU (Cherokee)
"Corn." Sometimes known as First Woman. Kanati's wife. Selu created
corn in secret by rubbing her belly or by defecating. Her sons, the Twin
Thunder Boys, killed her when they spied upon her and decided she was a
witch.
NADA (Sun) (Cherokee)
A goddess. When Sun's daughter was bitten by a snake and taken to the
Ghost Country, Sun hid herself in grief. The world was ever dark, and
Sun's tears became a flood. At last the Cherokee sent their young men
and women to heal Sun's grief, which they did with singing and dancing.
TWIN THUNDER BOYS (Cherokee)
The sons of Kanati and Selu. Kanati and Selu live in the east, the Twin
Thunder Boys live in the west. When thunder sounds, the boys are
playing ball.
GRANDMOTHER SUN (Cherokee) Major female Goddess diety
BROTHER MOON (Cherokee) Major man diety
Yule in the old witches tongue is "Wiesterling"
"pronounced" wester-ling
The
Day of the old Gypsy when she would go to the cave in the upperhills
and await death, death would never come.... but each time she went up
she would know he wouldn't come, she would do this to remember you must
as a witch face death off....everyday when your an elder one....because
he is quite watching your back....
however when you face him off, you felt just abit more empowered
to take on the world when it was over.......
The power of this is that it's a lore
A
youthful maiden when into a cavern and drawn up a fire and there she
did the old ways , death came in a coat and said to her wear my comfort
as your own and i will protect thee from aging time... she she place on
herself a blacken shaw that covered her with fullness and death was
pleased, as he had said the woman age not fast but slow.......until one
day as of the age she spoke out on the fire death my brother i cast you
no more curse me if you will but i conjure thee not... He was mad so he
took away her beauty all in one night, so she went to the cavern and
yelled deaths sacret name and he said told to thee to cast you came and
now for me to not insnare your youth you must venture here....every
"wiesterling"
to beg my venture on your comfort.....and i shall not be in thee gazing
but only in thee heart and dream will i come for thou....
(but
if thee maiden come venture me on "wiesterling" will thou find one year
returned......) So the old gypsy ventured to the caven with a maiden of
blooming pride and did the ritual of the blade....shared only to those
whom ventured....death came not but youth was found on the gypsy
one age less....(until the gypsy teaches the maiden the blade ritual) then the maiden gained as the gypsy did)
the side of yule few know...lol
Purt wiesterling tidings shown
Artemis
was the daughter of the Titaness Leto and Zeus, and the twin sister of
Apollo. She was in all likelihood a very ancient deity whom the Greeks
adopted as goddess of the wild. Traces of human sacrifice could still be
found in her worship. Most of all, Artemis liked to roam the mountains
with a companion band of nymphs. Certaily the virgin goddess resented
any kind of intrusion into her domain, or any harm done to her favourite
animals. For killing a stag sacred to Artemis, the leader of the Greek
expedition against Troy, King Agamemnon of Mycenae, found his fleet
stranded by contrary winds at Aulis. Only a promise to sacrifice his
daughter Iphigenia was enough to appease the goddess, although there are
differing accounts as to whether the girl was actually killed.
Another mortal punished by Artemis was Actaeon. He had the misfortune while hunting to come upon the goddess as she was bathing. She changed him into a stag and he was chased and torn apart by his own hunting dogs. To the Romans, Artemis was closely identified with their goddess Diana, who was also a goddess of light as well as of the wild. Mythos of the huntress, has shaped much of current pagan imagery and the idea of the totemism in greek/roman modernist (A primal female energy grown, like She, or Sonja of the norse, Hera, and Lady Mora, Maeve and periti Gia) comes close to the nature of animalism instincts in the social order of moral balance....) by Luxas for everyone (The long story, is quite long so enjoy the short, and ask for the long if you want...(not a sexual comment..lol) where should i start, well was at an early age interested in the occult, and it grew into contact with books and people and well i started to study mythology/legends/and languages of the old schools, as i was only beginning my mage hood, self studied and practicing adept mage, well i was doing things for myself and the magic(k)al world, info exchange, spells, wood working, and grimoire study, it later grew into sygil and gating info, martial dynamics and then philosophy of the beginnings of things, well from there i was initiated into the world of role-playing, well it was fun, but fake, so i strive to find where this info that formed there's realities came from, 'folklore and myths, well then i went into a place and was adopted by a smiling wise person, whom turned out was a wizard( giving you a bit look at, it would be hundreds of pages of what i have done, well from there i was training in the subtle nature of the hermit wizard, well i didn't think this nature went outside to obligation to the whole of magic(k) one day as i was homeless and traveling, i was summoned by a witch to a place i never would go normally, well she claimed she needed my help, use to giving it, i was impressed by her aura, and magic(k)al skill, bending flames/touching minds, even my own, and well having others move without her saying, these as taught to me seemed to be of witch, well as i learned more about witchcraft i thought well, i would like to join, at which she refused at first, but having a mind contest, she was well impressed and we broke even, beside she wanted my help, in something she wasn't saying, so i knew i was winning, but that's not why i wanted to know, and well i left her company and her coven to return home, a miracle in its own right, not before making my mark in Ca, without meaning too, So ordained to the title of Hp, i took it more in a token fashion, because the real power of a witches circle to my knowing is the Hps (high-priestess, if you can call her that, sometimes she can be her own mage or higher) as i got to see at ritual, well...in Maryland i adopted her training to aid in the teaching of witches (to honor her,) and my adventure in it... during my travel i met pagan/shaman/wiccan and a few satanist, and well i was reminded of her saying...(we each share a part in magic(k)'s chain, however our linking is at the time we exchange not meld or transform or copy it onto us, as of my learning she said " that is for time and nature to decide...." (Now i am the only wizard in my domain, if you can call my area a domain, i don't..lol) I was learning way before the Idea of wizards hit le-land's book...and harry potter wasn't in ink yet... The world is a door, that magic(k) can open with only one word "please or now"
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Subject: [Witchcraft_Study] ***The Four Cornerstones of Magick*** Ok...since I like to talk about more than religion, Does anyone know the *Four cornerstones of Magick? Better known as, The Witches Pyramid...are? Well in case you don't, i'll try to explain it a bit. Wicca, like anything else has some very basic principles. Just about everything has *simple* common knowledge, which require a bit of thought, from time to time! And this religion is no different. The four cornerstones are are about being wise (wicca like most other slogan seekers just use it....;) TO KNOW~~TO WILL~~TO DARE~~& TO KEEP SILENT. (here they are from the words of the wise.....Wizard) TO KNOW; Is to accept that everything is learnable as in personally and spiritually knowable..like the cold that chills your bones....to know yourself that well...A saying from "Merlyn" ( To be is never to know why but flow like the birds to the places of many feedings, restings, and breedings and in the end you spent your life as you have lived it, knowing truth...) TO WILL; As with al things you must be strong enought inside and out to know your words and live by them this is the will, truthfully the greated strength is the one that gives not when your in a grudge or pushing match when your correct, to do so is to admit your wisdom isn't truth but opionion... "Merlyn again" Be not the tree but the branch as strong as the root but not as relying on the foundation to keep you, because you will bend its just a matter of when, and why if not you break but be not heartened because when you fall your roots will grow again... TO DARE;beyond all things is the right to defend and this is known well by all living and dead things...but that not what you do when you dare, nothing changes or grows in it right direction if it looks not in the mirror of its own making and this requires a stronger strenght then most can offer..."Meryln again" (you are what you call yourself to be, but to have it forever is to make it you, not just claiming it, and how do you do this....Ask, what you will and it will....(laugh, and see who smiles)they are your friends forever.... TO KEEP SILENT;Truthfully a wise person is silent in their wisdom not in their voice, and time, pleasure and knowing of the other 3 methods lead one on the right stones..."Meryln again" (As with all thing silents weed out the need and noise directs the attention, soto honor the wise is to read what can not be said and to know the wise is when you read them before they read you....A test of will or automatic action all of creation does it... (see I read you) :) Wisdom 101 cl;ass Dis-missed
As
with all thing the meat and potato's gives balance to the full meal,
and my teacher of witch has said, to know is not just to feel but to do
and understand why ... this is just a simple message with strong
roots...because being a witch is as you stated more then nudity, sex in
the higher levels of getting over them it is required but in a way that
is not need but energy, and that has its own truth...truthful pagans
want to own nothing know everything and be understood...
(wiccan's want a faith like the mist of avalon) or charmed on TV.....
And good for them, but the simple fact is it teaches you nothing about everything...
The
reasoning of witch is not just to know yourself and be set free, but to
be a mirror to nature a miniforce in its tuning or changing, the key to
why any wished to be a witch in the first place...and none deny that
this is possible...
(the simple fact is lots of book witches
have no insight, and this is sad...fun but sad...) I'm a wizard who will
never enjoy the full nature of witchcraft it is after all a female
design, but when in a form of exchange, not sexual it leads to a grand
union ... of wood and stone ... let me explain....)
wood; creating, energy, life and even death
woman of the earth serve the use of a wand, not by cystal enhancement but its nature or beauty and ugliness (it is the beginning the bond between the witch and nature without the commitment, freely used to modify the witches self and even others of her circle with magic(k) or not...(the bond) that even time supports...I know...well
stone; energy drawing, connection to life and even memories and kin to the tree
Man of the earth, in the opposite of energy we have the outer or building of foundation, and that is based on script, wood was second thing that script was written on and why, cause stone lasted longer, stones only for where they are pushed by the earth, but not by their own design, each feed wood and stone from the river to form but they share the land, the energy of stone comes not from the stone but from the fields and emotions invoked in them......(i could go on and on) but you can see why each is as I stated...) now what you don't know....or perhaps you do....
wood can become a form of stone (petrified)
(now where magic(k) concerned, after the one whomever male or female in magic(k) has reached an advanced (adept or mage level) and most know cause magic(k) happens without words... (so the gifts of stone then can be made more then just wood based) and the connection with the witches gifts can make sone wood as in mage as well.....(the pattern is quite winding) but complete....
Welcome to the stone truth...
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