Facts and myths
Myth : All witches are women.
Fact: A male witch is not a Warlock ( an old english phrase that means oath
breaker)
a male witch is a witch an a female witch is a witch....this
information is only upheld by wiccan designs not witch one..and was
ratified in the 60's after the first wiccan books was coming into
being..
and the fact is witches are women, and men are called adepts or mages...not witches
Myth : Pagans are witches.
Fact:
All witches are Pagans, but not all pagans are not witches. again
another wiccan fact after the fact... witches aren't pagan, Pagan is an
unbrella like working trying to claim control of all not connected to
the main stream religions and archtypes..., paganism can have witch
like properties just as wicca trys to, however paganism doesn't have any
motive other then to practice what they believe as an eathbased or
cultural truth and have no structor, other then pantheums..or cultural
directions..
"witches Don't"
Myth : Witches hurt creatures ( animal and Human )
Fact: " In the religion of Witchcraft itself there is a very very strict
three-fold
law which means anything you do comes back to you three times whether
it be good or bad." ---fact witchcraft has no such rule only those who
claimed to create wicca have forced that issue and it was only to keep
the dabblers in line...---wiches didn't harm animals, but would cast on
those who dare to mess with their existance...never directly strike out
as others would want you to fight them on it..., so you can view it as
bad, making the wiccan design like tv trying to sell you...so you can
get new prettier books...
Myth : Witches worship Satan.
Fact:
Witches don't have a Satan within their deity structure. wicca claim it
doesn't and it doesn't as the name satan, however they have in certain
designs...the horned god, the greenman and the stag consort....all are
along the same idea..
Witches of the La Vey
movement have practiced in the idea of satan trying to make this
beginning as "an unruly wise but yet not stupid or gulible witch" which
as sort of died sense his death,
Witches of Old
didn't battle dark forces, they worked with them, and if you don't know
this perhaps your fooling yourself into the wicca new design and good
for you...so when your car is stolen and your robbed you can say your
protection spell has done its job.........sorry..
Witches
work with the energies, signals, silences and even the pains of
others....if you don't feel they do, then you just wait until you meet a
truthful one not just one from a new cover of a book or movie...
What
is it to be a witch, mage or magic user if your going to lie to the
ones you want to help get to what you yourself have experienced...
What type of guide are U?
COVEN PECKING ORDER
HIGH PRIEST: Leaps tall builings in a single bound, is more powerful
than a speeding locomotive, is faster than a speeding bullet, walks
on water, and dictates policy to God.
3RD DEGREE INITIATE: Leaps short buildings in a single bound, more
powerful than a switch engine, is just as fast as a speeding bullet,
walks on water...if the sea is calm, and talks to God.
2ND DEGREE INITIATE: Leaps short buildings with a running start and
favorable winds, is faster than a BB, more powerful than a railroad
hand-car, walks on water in a swimming pool, and talks to God...if a
special request is approved.
1ST DEGREE INITIATE: Clears a small hut, loses the race with the
locomotive, can fire a speeding bullet, swims well, and is
occasionally addressed by God.
NEOPHYTE:
Runs into small buildings, recognizes a locomotive two out of three
times, frequently wets self with a water pistol, can do the
dog paddle, and mostly mumbles to animals.
HIGH PRIESTESS: Lifts tall buildings to walk under them, kicks
locomotives off the track, catches speeding bullets in her teeth,
freezes water with a single glance.
SHE *IS* GOD!
In the Dark her blood is fire,
her eyes dripping black
her skin revealing, alive, and sepentive,
she haunts me, desires our succubi union,
the king flame burns her hurt flesh,
She is the vampire, the broken glass,
the nighmare filled with naked pleasures,
She is the blood, the bone, the candle, the witch,
the sister, the daughter, the crone of dust,
the moons shade is blue, the vain is white,
a drug taken and age relived, you are my tombstone
and now my grave, i am naked marked by gods
whoms messages wore well in his soul,
The Darkened Acolite, the magus of the Un-born
My seed haunts her lips, hunger fills her body
and witch no more, she is the pain, the truth the darkness reborn in symbol
Saddly the Goetia is just information not real magic...
but find out for yourself i did...
:)
most of the books of magical design is more lore and story....
how can i say that 17 or so years of study in Occult....
and all the works of solomon...
the main design of most of so called dark magic...
but again see for yourself...
Being
a wizard i see only patterns of how energy and knowing are linked
making insight, and with this insight one can understand the workings of
the whole not just the parts given but the parts felt and seen in the
self and other this plays a big part in the greater design of "Why" and
that gives rise to the patterns that form the energy links and the
insight to evaluate the bridge that is emotional created in the seeker
and the knower, this may seem difficult to understand but as you gain
farther you will see for yourself it is a very natural thing... Magic
to me is more then most can comprehend on a firt look, it is more like a
5 dimensional space that only the self being one of the non 5 roots but
needs part any way, can you honestly think it is instinct or natural
known all before....if you do then you may need abit more self and less
fudiment,
As for the greater of magic it is desire
As for the lessor it is need
As for the truth of magic it is sent
As for the lying in magic it is regret
So you tell me, Why is this so?
not all meanings are said as they are thought and not all thoughts are set higher then the nivine or divine incorporation...
Courage to face the un-known and hold steady to the true
Truth to know where the diversity of life reveals as in mysteries
Honor to that which you learn and those that chosen to find their own
Loyalty in sharing what you are and what you learned and reflect
Discipline to know when to press forth and when to question ones own creations
Hospitality to that which shows truth and comfort in their own design and others discovery
Self-Reliance to show you are what you command and what has choesen you to challege the known
Steadfastness and quick in wit to know that you hold wisdom and awareness
Industriousness to show both your and the natural design are in harmony
see...
dare the devil and he shows you your dare,
he walks to the sign that is set on a long dusty forgotten cross
he plays his song on the harmon and awaits the flood waters
you say your job or michael to him and he simply fades
you say your in the hearts of all and he send you away
you met the man, they call old stitch his tale is as long as the night
i be not telling you anything your heart not be knowing
but i be telling you all what he be showing...
gold isn't his tool, nor glory will he face, the greyist of grey will he not be hiding within....
if you be seeking him you need to be at the roads where the world come training because he not venture from the rock
you call him out and he laugh at you, you yell at yourself and he show you your worth,
he be your friendly visitor or you wicked nature flaunted, but he not be serving you or your needs
you be serving, even if you think you ain't you be serving...
because you need to meet him at the rock, say your piece and walk away,
as i be speaking he be calling you to, so hold your tongue,
or it find you held.....
the old canister will not be bidded by the walk
nor will the glue you rub
so go to the crossroads otherwise the roads be in your heart
because he not slick or special to most, he be the glue....
meet me there say hi, because i said my piece......and i'm playing the harmonica now....
knock, knock with the staff you have set
to floor and forest and all the candles dancing
knock, knock, the circle or symbol or key about your neck
to the floor to the forest to to the sky you known only in a dream
knock, knock, as you shed all that you may learn
knock,knock, you wall freely among the empty without form...
knock, knock, as you fall or rise in a melody that shakes your soul
knock, knock, and knock some more and now you walk with your partners frame and view the world through a straw,
knock, just knock with that staff, wish, wish with that wand that only witch holds, knock i dare you knock...........
Now what do you knock, your nothing your a dream your a fantasy of the eye and soul, so what did daring the knock get you.....
knock again and see..... you dared to feel, you feel, you dared to know, you now know, you dared to see, you now see.....
now what do you in this ritual of non dare... you dare to knock....
Dry wind cold to touch with the heart of ages told,
In the raven and the wolves does the shadow set known,
Bold without fear do they call the one, the all, the none of stone,
This the sweeping of the dawn awaken, and soul will rest opon the gold,
In weeping for all of creation but gaze like the fire lit sun of old,
Fostering the will of all that is shown and craft you live by word of shown
None but shadow is stalked to grow within or self of serve will burn toll
So dream of color and remember this day of gazing moon carry sown,
For crow is set and raven at bay all is seen in the tigers eye globe,
But gypsy is all that the ancient set to for one to know,
The voices you hear come from the guidance of your heart toned
For the witches keeping is the secrets with pride.....not cloned...
In a world that is black/grey/white, few ever get to see
the patterns that defined why, and those that did risked burning, death, poisoning of the soul, and harassment....
Would
that if faced with the reality of this again however painful, have
changed their ways, dived least deep, brought less in helped or not
helped others see, (the answer saddly is no)
They would still
do as they have done, because to not, is to question it forever and to
do that is worst then ever not needing to know...
We as a
culture of magic k or not need to see the stuff few can, feel the stuff
few can, otherwise we as a culture are a pawn on a very big chess
board.....and being a pawn you have no contol over how you move...
forward, not back and diagnal is the only way you survive,
(not to mention if there is another pawn trying to move as well....)
But
magic much like a chess game, you pawn can become anything you name
after you make it to home row....otherwise you better watch out for
their piece...lol (some pay to play) and that is called being pagan...
Some play to learn (that is called a witch) and some learn to play by instinct and feelings (that is sage/mage/adept)
Then
there are some that invented the way it is played these happless
founders are called "roleplayer" they know their role so well that when
they play they play as if their live depends on it...
(always in the idea of wining and they might...but they need more their their skill (they are called wiccan/occult/or grey)
'many
pick on this happless piece bacause they aren't playing, they are
writting the rules...even if they aren't the main pieces or the
board...'
Then there are pawns that aren't pawns to begin
with they been in other games as queens/knights/kings/bishops/rooks so
they know how the game is played because they been there done that...)
(these
pawns on a new game are "wizards" they play not to play, not to learn,
not for life or death, not even to contest there skill, they play to
help the other players say...."been there done that..."
lol Sorry but your in checkmate.....
In all of magic there is a stratagy, it is based on the patterns it shows and in the end it isn't a game.....its just a move...
Cherokee Medicine Gods And Goddesses
ASGAYA GIGAGEI (Cherokee)
The Red Man or Woman evoked in spells to cure the ill. Asgaya Gigagei
is either male or female, depending on the sex of the patient.
KANATI (Cherokee)
"The Lucky Hunter." Sometimes called First Man. He lives with his wife
Selu ("Corn") in the east where the sun rises, and their sons, the Twin
Thunder Boys, live in the west
OCASTA
(Cherokee) "Stonecoat." The name comes from his coat which was made of
pieces of flint. Equally good and evil, Ocasta was one of the Creator's
helpers. Ocasta created witches and drifted from village to village
stirring up turmoil. Some women trapped Ocasta, pinning him to the
ground with a stick through his heart. The men cremated the dying
Ocasta, who while burning on his funeral pyre taught them songs and
dances for hunting, fighting wars and healing. Some of the men were
granted great power and became the first medicine men.
SELU (Cherokee)
"Corn." Sometimes known as First Woman. Kanati's wife. Selu created
corn in secret by rubbing her belly or by defecating. Her sons, the Twin
Thunder Boys, killed her when they spied upon her and decided she was a
witch.
NADA (Sun) (Cherokee)
A goddess. When Sun's daughter was bitten by a snake and taken to the
Ghost Country, Sun hid herself in grief. The world was ever dark, and
Sun's tears became a flood. At last the Cherokee sent their young men
and women to heal Sun's grief, which they did with singing and dancing.
TWIN THUNDER BOYS (Cherokee)
The sons of Kanati and Selu. Kanati and Selu live in the east, the Twin
Thunder Boys live in the west. When thunder sounds, the boys are
playing ball.
GRANDMOTHER SUN (Cherokee) Major female Goddess diety
BROTHER MOON (Cherokee) Major man diety
Yule in the old witches tongue is "Wiesterling"
"pronounced" wester-ling
The
Day of the old Gypsy when she would go to the cave in the upperhills
and await death, death would never come.... but each time she went up
she would know he wouldn't come, she would do this to remember you must
as a witch face death off....everyday when your an elder one....because
he is quite watching your back....
however when you face him off, you felt just abit more empowered
to take on the world when it was over.......
The power of this is that it's a lore
A
youthful maiden when into a cavern and drawn up a fire and there she
did the old ways , death came in a coat and said to her wear my comfort
as your own and i will protect thee from aging time... she she place on
herself a blacken shaw that covered her with fullness and death was
pleased, as he had said the woman age not fast but slow.......until one
day as of the age she spoke out on the fire death my brother i cast you
no more curse me if you will but i conjure thee not... He was mad so he
took away her beauty all in one night, so she went to the cavern and
yelled deaths sacret name and he said told to thee to cast you came and
now for me to not insnare your youth you must venture here....every
"wiesterling"
to beg my venture on your comfort.....and i shall not be in thee gazing
but only in thee heart and dream will i come for thou....
(but
if thee maiden come venture me on "wiesterling" will thou find one year
returned......) So the old gypsy ventured to the caven with a maiden of
blooming pride and did the ritual of the blade....shared only to those
whom ventured....death came not but youth was found on the gypsy
one age less....(until the gypsy teaches the maiden the blade ritual) then the maiden gained as the gypsy did)
the side of yule few know...lol
Purt wiesterling tidings shown
Artemis
was the daughter of the Titaness Leto and Zeus, and the twin sister of
Apollo. She was in all likelihood a very ancient deity whom the Greeks
adopted as goddess of the wild. Traces of human sacrifice could still be
found in her worship. Most of all, Artemis liked to roam the mountains
with a companion band of nymphs. Certaily the virgin goddess resented
any kind of intrusion into her domain, or any harm done to her favourite
animals. For killing a stag sacred to Artemis, the leader of the Greek
expedition against Troy, King Agamemnon of Mycenae, found his fleet
stranded by contrary winds at Aulis. Only a promise to sacrifice his
daughter Iphigenia was enough to appease the goddess, although there are
differing accounts as to whether the girl was actually killed.
Another
mortal punished by Artemis was Actaeon. He had the misfortune while
hunting to come upon the goddess as she was bathing. She changed him
into a stag and he was chased and torn apart by his own hunting dogs.
To the Romans, Artemis was closely identified with their goddess Diana, who was also a goddess of light as well as of the wild.
Mythos of the huntress, has shaped much of current pagan imagery and the idea of the totemism in greek/roman modernist
(A
primal female energy grown, like She, or Sonja of the norse, Hera, and
Lady Mora, Maeve and periti Gia) comes close to the nature of animalism
instincts in the social order of moral balance....)
a look at your Owner of this group and the root Dec 7, '02 1:44 AM by Luxas for everyone (The long story, is quite long so enjoy the short, and ask for the long if you want...(not a sexual comment..lol) where should i start, well was at an early age interested in the occult, and it grew into contact with books and people and well i started to study mythology/legends/and languages of the old schools, as i was only beginning my mage hood, self studied and practicing adept mage, well i was doing things for myself and the magic(k)al world, info exchange, spells, wood working, and grimoire study, it later grew into sygil and gating info, martial dynamics and then philosophy of the beginnings of things, well from there i was initiated into the world of role-playing, well it was fun, but fake, so i strive to find where this info that formed there's realities came from, 'folklore and myths, well then i went into a place and was adopted by a smiling wise person, whom turned out was a wizard( giving you a bit look at, it would be hundreds of pages of what i have done, well from there i was training in the subtle nature of the hermit wizard, well i didn't think this nature went outside to obligation to the whole of magic(k) one day as i was homeless and traveling, i was summoned by a witch to a place i never would go normally, well she claimed she needed my help, use to giving it, i was impressed by her aura, and magic(k)al skill, bending flames/touching minds, even my own, and well having others move without her saying, these as taught to me seemed to be of witch, well as i learned more about witchcraft i thought well, i would like to join, at which she refused at first, but having a mind contest, she was well impressed and we broke even, beside she wanted my help, in something she wasn't saying, so i knew i was winning, but that's not why i wanted to know, and well i left her company and her coven to return home, a miracle in its own right, not before making my mark in Ca, without meaning too, So ordained to the title of Hp, i took it more in a token fashion, because the real power of a witches circle to my knowing is the Hps (high-priestess, if you can call her that, sometimes she can be her own mage or higher) as i got to see at ritual, well...in Maryland i adopted her training to aid in the teaching of witches (to honor her,) and my adventure in it... during my travel i met pagan/shaman/wiccan and a few satanist, and well i was reminded of her saying...(we each share a part in magic(k)'s chain, however our linking is at the time we exchange not meld or transform or copy it onto us, as of my learning she said " that is for time and nature to decide...." (Now i am the only wizard in my domain, if you can call my area a domain, i don't..lol) I was learning way before the Idea of wizards hit le-land's book...and harry potter wasn't in ink yet... The world is a door, that magic(k) can open with only one word "please or now"
Witchcraft_Study@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Witchcraft_Study] ***The Four Cornerstones of Magick*** Ok...since I like to talk about more than religion, Does anyone know
the *Four cornerstones of Magick? Better known as, The Witches
Pyramid...are?
Well in case you don't, i'll try to explain it a bit.
Wicca, like anything else has some very basic principles. Just about
everything has *simple* common knowledge, which require a bit of
thought, from time to time!
And this religion is no different.
The four cornerstones are are about being wise (wicca like most other slogan seekers just use it....;)
TO KNOW~~TO WILL~~TO DARE~~& TO KEEP SILENT.
(here they are from the words of the wise.....Wizard)
TO
KNOW; Is to accept that everything is learnable as in personally and
spiritually knowable..like the cold that chills your bones....to know
yourself that well...A saying from "Merlyn" ( To be is never to know why
but flow like the birds to the places of many feedings, restings, and
breedings and in the end you spent your life as you have lived it,
knowing truth...)
TO WILL; As with al things you must be strong
enought inside and out to know your words and live by them this is the
will, truthfully the greated strength is the one that gives not when
your in a grudge or pushing match when your correct, to do so is to
admit your wisdom isn't truth but opionion... "Merlyn again" Be not the
tree but the branch as strong as the root but not as relying on the
foundation to keep you, because you will bend its just a matter of when,
and why if not you break but be not heartened because when you fall
your roots will grow again...
TO DARE;beyond all things is the
right to defend and this is known well by all living and dead
things...but that not what you do when you dare, nothing changes or
grows in it right direction if it looks not in the mirror of its own
making and this requires a stronger strenght then most can
offer..."Meryln again" (you are what you call yourself to be, but to
have it forever is to make it you, not just claiming it, and how do you
do this....Ask, what you will and it will....(laugh, and see who
smiles)they are your friends forever....
TO KEEP
SILENT;Truthfully a wise person is silent in their wisdom not in their
voice, and time, pleasure and knowing of the other 3 methods lead one on
the right stones..."Meryln again" (As with all thing silents weed out
the need and noise directs the attention, soto honor the wise is to read
what can not be said and to know the wise is when you read them before
they read you....A test of will or automatic action all of creation does
it...
(see I read you) :)
Wisdom 101 cl;ass Dis-missed
As
with all thing the meat and potato's gives balance to the full meal,
and my teacher of witch has said, to know is not just to feel but to do
and understand why ... this is just a simple message with strong
roots...because being a witch is as you stated more then nudity, sex in
the higher levels of getting over them it is required but in a way that
is not need but energy, and that has its own truth...truthful pagans
want to own nothing know everything and be understood...
(wiccan's want a faith like the mist of avalon) or charmed on TV.....
And good for them, but the simple fact is it teaches you nothing about everything...
The
reasoning of witch is not just to know yourself and be set free, but to
be a mirror to nature a miniforce in its tuning or changing, the key to
why any wished to be a witch in the first place...and none deny that
this is possible...
(the simple fact is lots of book witches
have no insight, and this is sad...fun but sad...) I'm a wizard who will
never enjoy the full nature of witchcraft it is after all a female
design, but when in a form of exchange, not sexual it leads to a grand
union ... of wood and stone ... let me explain....)
wood; creating, energy, life and even death
woman
of the earth serve the use of a wand, not by cystal enhancement but its
nature or beauty and ugliness (it is the beginning the bond between the
witch and nature without the commitment, freely used to modify the
witches self and even others of her circle with magic(k) or not...(the
bond) that even time supports...I know...well
stone; energy drawing, connection to life and even memories and kin to the tree
Man
of the earth, in the opposite of energy we have the outer or building
of foundation, and that is based on script, wood was second thing that
script was written on and why, cause stone lasted longer, stones only
for where they are pushed by the earth, but not by their own design,
each feed wood and stone from the river to form but they share the land,
the energy of stone comes not from the stone but from the fields and
emotions invoked in them......(i could go on and on) but you can see why
each is as I stated...) now what you don't know....or perhaps you
do....
wood can become a form of stone (petrified)
(now where magic(k) concerned, after the one whomever male or female in magic(k) has reached an advanced (adept or mage level)
and most know cause magic(k) happens without words...
(so the gifts of stone then can be made more then just wood based)
and the connection with the witches gifts can make sone wood as in mage as well.....(the pattern is quite winding)
but complete....
Welcome to the stone truth...
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